Does he have a chance? True Archer observes their battle, impressed by Saber's prowess and the fact his power is natural and not granted by the gods. There were stories about his Katana that killed Toku… Fate/Zero, Fate/hollow ataraxia, Fate/Extra, Fate/EXTELLA, Fate/Grand Order, Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Strange Fake, The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II, Fate/Requiem, Fate/type Redline, etc., discuss all of these and more on this subreddit! He would get wrecked by her. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the fatestaynight community. She dresses in a revealing red and white dress with long poofy sleeves, a transparent front, leotard, and knee high golden armored boots. Would it work or fail against Saber Alter, though? If we assume she does not use Excalibur Morgan, however, then I agree with the outcome you've presented! Post with 2725 views. While Shirou's may not have worked if Saber Alter was as fast as her normal counterpart, Archer could probably perform it a lot better. What makes him so powerful is his versatility and ability to control the battlefield. He isn't physically the strongest servant, and his fighting style is very crafty and about him pulling out one specific trick after another. Press J to jump to the feed. Triple-Linked Crane Wings worked on Alter because she didn't have instinct. Guest. To be frank, Saber Alter would be nowhere near the threat she was without being directly connected to the grail and to be honest I find her to be overexaggerated in terms of danger level. Let's say UBW went differently. Archer pretty much gets beat in close range combat against superior duelists like Lancer and Saber. https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Saber_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Surtr) 1 - Shirou vs Archer cook-off! Like you said, his Fate route loss was due to being blindsided by Avalon and treating things like a game as usual. Snipes or he is a goner. If it's in a room at close range he has literally no chance. In the first place, Agility is a functionally meaningless stat when it comes to speed. 0 - Cover, color pages. Really bother to look at what Agility represents for any given hero and wonder whether that innately has anything to do with speed. Fate/Zero, Fate/hollow ataraxia, Fate/Extra, Fate/EXTELLA, Fate/Grand Order, Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Strange Fake, The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II, Fate/Requiem, Fate/type Redline, etc., discuss all of these and more on this subreddit! Saber has to go on the offensive at some point and when she does, Gil will pick her apart. Jeanne d'Arc is the first Servant to have received a sprite update twice. I dont remember exactly, but I believe what Archer meant when he said that the clash of his copy and excalibur would cause destruction was more in that it would destroy the surrounding area, not Saber or himself. So she has B instinct, which isn't bad at all. Even … If she is, then Archer obviously loses, if she isn't then he has a chance because of her downgraded skills. Following Rider's death, Archer and Saber debate over how Rider was killed; while Saber claims she died in honor protecting her Master, Archer claims she was a weakling, once again creating a rift between him and the others. He would get wrecked by her. Random encounter. Despite saying all that about Archer Class, it turns out like this in the end. Its a close match when Gilgamesh is only partially using SNI but he's legitimately on par with high tier divine spirits when he uses the ability to its fullest. Which is why IMO, UBW sword rain would both distract Alter and prevent her from activating Morgan. Mar 3, 2020 - Post with 11829 views. It also means she's probably more likely to use underhanded or dishonorable tactics to achieve her ends, since she is much more focused on the end results than being overly concerned about how she gets there. He willingly keeps Saber from exposing he… Vol. Her speed is a function of Prana Burst which only depends on prana. Muramasa is a famed blacksmith within Ise Province. Shirou Emiya(衛宮士郎, Emiya Shirō?) Archer and saber battle against a berserker and it is intense. With the Greater Grail feeding her with functionally limitless mana, she has no need to even cross blades with Archer to win. If she is, then Archer obviously loses, if she isn't then he has a chance because of her downgraded skills. Fate/Zero, Fate/hollow ataraxia, Fate/Extra, Fate/Grand Order, The Case … His best bet would be to utilise it to distract and delay Alter from fully attacking him while he sets up a Caladbolg or Triple linked crane wings. UBW is said to be only effective against Gilgamesh. Even if he were bluffing, it shows he could manipulate her into not using her NP. Without her direct link to the grail, is another story as she can't rely on the ludicrous healing and her useage on her NP is similar to regular Saber. Keeping it brief, with both Servants having equal Masters and dropped into a room together, it's probably gonna be a pretty one-sided fight. 1 Ch. Although, how can Excalibur Morgan destroy RM's? Anything from close to mid-far range (as long as he can be seen by Lancer) would be too disadvantageous for Archer to win. Heracles Hits: 2|2|1|3 Bravery A+ Increases own attack for 3 turns.Increases own mental debuff resistance for 3 turns. 1 Ch. Vs Lancer: Second verse, same as the first. But regardless in my opinion UBW has a higher chance of working on Alter than Lancer or normal Saber but it's still not much of an improvement. She very clearly still held some emotion for him and wanted to see him succeed. BNC Scanlation. Also, if Saber activated her NP, Archer states he could replicate it resulting in their mutual destruction. As a result, Saber's stats are as strong as they'd be if Rin were her Master. Him replicating Saber's sword is a massive bluff since whatever he constructs is one rank weaker for normal weapons made of earthly elements. What Actually Happened: Archer Vs.Caster MangaDex. Let's say we pit Archer and Saber against one another. Even though Saber's Instinct is superior to Archer's Eye of the Mind, the latter can still use it to dodge attacks too fast for him to see. Isn't Ea the only one that can do that outright to RM's, except for special cases like Ionian Hetairoi where 'just' killing enough of his men can dissipate it? If we talk about how she was in HF then archer's RM probably wouldn't be enough as even is she takes a wound she will heal in back in no time and failing that she can just throw Excalibur Morgan's at him until he goes away. I'd imagine if she get a good Excaliblast Morgan in, Archer wouldn't be able to put up a strong enough shield against it and possibly OHKO him, though... UBW would annoy/slow her down while Archer would execute her with Crane Wing.If a mind broken Shirou could do it then Archer can easily do it as well. Shirou's was the only one said to be weak against everyone else. He is honorable in battle, always maintaining a degree of bushido, and he is not the type who would attack defenseless women and children. Saber completely carried the show and game, in terms of personality, back story, appearance, etc. Archer only options are bp ,if its a fight in open space its 50/50 chance for both of them,even nasu commented on it,if its in a room saber takes it, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the fatestaynight community. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. For the 4 , see Mordred (Rider). Winner by KO, Incapacitation or Death. After Saber is snatched away by Caster, Rin decides to rescue her so Saber can be returned to Shirou. Excalibur Vivian. ... Saber vs Archer (different Archer) 2 years ago. Oblivious to why this succeeded compared to the other permutations of females in various master/slave roles they tried, they resorted to copying their own character. This is assuming that Saber Alter doesn't simply spam Excalibur Morgan at Archer, however. Putting Archer in a close quarter fight means total defeat for him. I mean, Saber basically watched as Shirou set up for Crane Wing because she wanted to see the best he could throw at her. The rest of it ranged from uninspired to disappointing compared to its potential. Excalibur is not completely made of earthly elements and his replication of that sword would be even weaker because of that. ), a Pseudo-Servant in the body of Shirou Emiya. Even though Saber's Instinct is superior to Archer's Eye of the Mind, the latter can still use it to dodge attacks too fast for him to see. Mashu Kyrielight received an animation update during theE Pluribus Unum Chapter Release and a sprite update during theAnastasia Chapter Release. Considering how when Shirou fought Gilgamesh in the UBW finale, Shirou noted that UBW wouldn't work against ordinary Servants due to their mastery of a single weapon, one would assume this would be the case most of the time. Archer vs. Saber (F/sn) WritingPrompt. For everything related to Fate/stay night or its spin-offs. UBW is said to be only effective against Gilgamesh since it counter's his GoB but against other servants its supposed to be ineffective since it fires weak/breakable swords. Some people think that just because Shirou managed to incapacitate her means Archer would be able to do the same, the only reason Alter didn't defeat Shirou with Morgan spam in SLH is because she was giving him a chance. 3 years ago Depends if Saber Alter is linked with the grail or not. Saber normally ties her long, flowing h… It would be a really bad copy with him filling up the divine parts with other parts, basically it would be an entirely different sword, not even a copy. And Archer can, in fact, reproduce Excalibur; in Heaven's Feel, Shirou realizes he can do so as well, but it would sap him of all his mana. "Still, Excalibur was originally something entrusted by the fairy of the lake, so there shouldn't be anything weird even if it possessed the water-attribute". (the appetizer) 2 years ago. Mordred Hits: 2|3|1|4 Mana Burst A Increases own Buster performance for 1 turn. When two Holy Swords collide, no one in the vicinity could survive. 1 Profile 1.1 Background 1.2 Appearance 1.3 Personality 2 Role 2.1 Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 3rei!! It worked on her beacuse of the crippling AGI loss she took when becoming Alter. Archer isn't a very strong servant and he admits that and it is why he is in the archer class, to compensate for that. 1,506 1k. Triple-Linked Crane Wings worked on Alter because she didn't have instinct. In character. That doesn't matter. No, she saw it coming, her body just couldn't react fast enough. I assume you're talking about the Saber class and not Saber the character. The thing is, is that it's a mild annoyance to other heroes...but other heroes don't have D-Rank Agility. He is the Card User of the second Archer Class Card of the Fifth Ainsworth Holy Grail War. Vol. Both have Rin as their master and are fighting at close-range (Archer can't get too far away and spam arrows). I've watched both series and came up with the conclusion that Archer in the UBW is actually Shirou in the original Fate/stay night (the one that in love with Saber) because Archer in UBW actually tried to scold Saber as Rin was telling him. Even if he were bluffing, it … BNC Scanlation. Some of the differences may not be visible right away as the patch for the Japanese version is … Legend says that he has forged a demon sword that antagonizes the Tokugawa clan. If he's locked into close range-combat, against a Rin-powered Saber (who is an absolute monster at close range) I really don't see him winning 99 times out of 100. BNC Scanlation. Forums Groups Users Discord Twitter Reddit Tumblr IRC. His excalibur projection wouldnt even be excalibur, since he cannot project divine constructs. (Besides, if Gil had decided to put his armour on, which only Excalibur is actually shown and noted by the wearer himself to actually damage in F/SN, UBW would become irrelevant just like with other heroes, and Gil is fast enough to block Saber's head strikes with his hands, so UBW would fail against Gil's armour and speed). Who would win? VS Saber: Unless she is sniped due to having to protect her master while he is acting like a brainless idiot, Archer is pretty much screwed. Saber and Archer battle outside of the church, far enough to prevent any interference from Masters. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. This article is for Mordred. In HF regardless on if she wanted it or not, Shirou does beat her using a technique of archers when it is stated that she can't hold back due to being blackened. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Archers are super effective against Sabers, Archer would win. is the parallel version of the Shirou from Miyu's world. Standard gear and abilities. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Him replicating Saber's sword is a massive bluff since whatever he constructs is one rank weaker for normal weapons made of earthly elements. Saber vs Archer, who will emerge victorious? What makes Archer a good servant is that he has a good kit and is very smart about using it however his real strength is in his long range capabilities. Since he doesn't have any range in this fight, that also means he can't rely on any broken phantasms without blowing himself up with her. Shirou offers to help and Rin gives him her prana. In Fate/Zero, Rider's D-Rank Agility put him too slow to block every shot aimed at him from Gate of Babylon, while Unlimited Blade Works is shown to be faster than Gate of Babylon, and Saber Alter's also got D-Rank Agility, the lowest in F/SN (Caster's got C-Rank, at least...). Saber Alter is Saber without the same moral compunctions or concerns about reserving or holding back her power. Archer vs FZ Caster - Archer has mediocre Endurance, there is no telling for how long he can stand up to the endlessly respawning monsters, but he can probably blast his way through with a BF much like Saber did with Invisible Air, bur Caster also got away that time and Saber also had Lancers backup. I love Archer, but I think his chances are low enough he should be hoping for a mutual kill at best. Saber is a blond-haired young girl of short but curvy stature with pale skin, yellow-ish blond hair with intake and bright lime green eyes. 1,314 1k. But against Rider, she didn't pull out Morgan until it was clear Rider was using Bellerophon. Search results for fate stay night lancer GIFs. Saber's True Name is Senji Muramasa (千子村正せんじむらまさ? Saber Alter stomp. Seriously though, it could go either way in practically any fight in the Fate series, like in real life. r/fatestaynight: For everything related to Fate/stay night or its spin-offs. Stats Rules About Change log Affiliates Tutorial. His only chance otherwise is to put her in position where she can't use her NP easily and somehow outskill her, something I don't see happening. This article takes note of all differences between the Japanese and the English Version of Fate Grand Order [FGO]. Her downgraded instinct and agility is what kills her in SLH and on the real route in HF. Also, if Saber activated her NP, Archer states he could replicate it resulting in their mutual destruction. Create and share your own fate stay night lancer GIFs, with Gfycat What do you all think? Saber is basicly superior, but Archer had at least his long range(so it depends much on version and master). Gilgamesh is the first Servant to receive an animation update twice. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Would her abysmal Agility actually make her one of the few people susceptible to UBW, or would her armour probably be too much for UBW's degraded weaponry? Regardless of how powerful Morgan is and how much she can spam it, it doesn't mean a thing if she doesn't have a chance to charge and activate it. Archer betrays Rin and sides with Caster far earlier. Info. Indeed, how childish. For everything related to Fate/stay night or its spin-offs. The immediate conclusion may be Saber, but there's a lot to consider: In HF, Shirou's Triple-Linked Crane Wings were able to defeat Saber Alter, who was slower but more powerful than Saber. VS. Saber of Black (Pre & Post Heart Transfer). Depends if Saber Alter is linked with the grail or not. If you give Archer a 10km headstarts with Saber Master standing beside her he can win. Thats one of the best things about it. Not to mention his projections tend to break easily anyway. Archer (Composite F/sn Routes). MangaDex. Hell, its even stated by Zouken that despite being physically superior to Berserker as Alter, she would likely lose if the Shadow wasn't there binding him and slowing his attacks to a speed she could manage and berserker lacks any semblance of technique, so there is a possibility it may work. Yes she did, it was just lowered by a rank. Assassin is quiet and composed, and while his general tone has a mocking nature to it, he takes it to another level with Caster. UBW was noted to only be a mildly annoyance against other heroes not named Gilgamesh, and Excalibur Morgan can dissipate Archer's RM. MangaDex. Also, he knows what Saber really motives for the grail, which Saber from the UBW did not tell Emiya. She would not give Archer such chance though, she'd treat him as she treated Rider. This is a list for Servants who received battle animation and/or sprite updates. 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